Are
you set doing kids’ movies now?
Frakes:
There are worst fates, aren’t there? I don’t know, that’s
a very good question. I don’t think this is all a kid’s
movie, it just happens to star three great young adults. I think the
idea of hiring somebody who had done visual effects movies and had
worked with kids was not lost on Universal. I have a lot of kid in
me, and I have kids of my own and I like the energy. So it’s
not a bad lot.
Fulton:
There are definitely worst fates – Steven Seagal knows that.
I’m only kidding.
Frakes:
Be careful guys, think of the room you’re in.
(to
Frakes) I hear that you’re trying to change young people’s
minds from enjoying one sci-fi genre to the other – from Star
Wars to Star Trek – (looks at Fulton)
Frakes:
I think it was part of their entertainment education.
Can
you tell us the challenges you had working with green screen and have
you left Star Trek for good?
Frakes:
I’ll do the second one first. I don’t think you ever leave
Star Trek for good. We’ll wait to see what happens. I hear Shatner’s
going on Enterprise, have you heard that rumor? And I also hear there’s
a prequel in development – Starfleet Academy. I’m actually
having dinner with all those guys tonight, I’ll get all the
dish for you and tell you what’s really happening with Star
Trek.
You’ve
obviously worked a lot with green screen in your past –
Frakes: Is that a good thing?
I
think it challenges the actors
Frakes: These guys learned the technique.
Fulton:
I love green screen. It wasn’t too hard for me because I’ve
got a really big imagination, I read a lot of books. It’s just
like a little bubble inside of my head, like those thought bubbles
when you’re picturing everything – that’s what I
do.
Frakes:
We’re also lucky because we developed a lot of what the movie
was going to look like in pre-production, so I was able to share with
these guys what would be in the ??? what would be out the window of
the spaceship, out of the cockpits, what the silos would look like,
so the visual effects team would come to our rehearsals and then come
when we were preparing to shoot, and there were visual stimulants
that would help us. It was more of a tone of what’s going on,
the movement, that you have to pretend to be moving when you’re
not is always a challenge.
You
all got to work with one of the great actors of our age, Ben Kingsley
– do you have any favorite stories or experiences with him?
Fulton:
I was a little afraid of him at first. I remember one time we were
shooting in the Thunder One silo and he’s like, ‘If this
shot’s going to work, it all depends on you.’ I was like,
‘Okay.’ But I guess I made it work because it’s
in the film.
Hudgens:
No, I remember when you were intimidated to
go down and get his signature.
Fulton:
I got my script all signed with all sorts of people, and wanting all
the actors, and after awhile Vanessa’s like, ‘Go, go ask
him.’
Hudgens:
And he wouldn’t go, so I had to grab him and pull him down the
stairs because he wasn’t doing anything. I really didn’t
get to know him that much. He seems like a great guy and the time
that I have talked to him he’s just amazing.
Frakes:
He’s fabulous. He came into meet me, we offered him the part
obviously, and we’re thrilled that he took it – but he
came in and the timing of having had done Sexy Beast and House of
Sand and Fog was the gift that we got, because he was ready to drop
some of that emotional, exhausting, suicidal, painful acting that
he’d been doing and embrace a family film. His kids also helped
us, because they encouraged him, because they were Thunderbirds fans
and they encouraged him to play The Hood. He also does a great Patrick
Stewart impersonation, which wasn’t lost on me. He’s from
that wonderful school of actors who have come up from the theatre
and through the Beeb and they show up in the morning, they’re
in costume, they’re in make-up, they come to the set and they’re
ready to go and game for anything. He was a treat to have in the film,
he was a treat to work with and he’s a genius, so I just had
to point the camera in the right direction. And he played the Hood
in this wonderful, mad way. As we were rehearsing he was discovering,
as we all discovered together, that the character was a few bricks
short of the load. He began to physicalize some of that sort of –
the revenge is there, the sinister anger of the character is there,
but there was also a madness in the performance that is just delicious.
It’s a little part Childcatcher (there is no movie by this title,
I looked it up!) and part Don Logan (?)
Fulton:
Childcatcher scared me when I first saw it.
Corbet:
You know what, I was always on completely cordial terms but I didn’t
get to know him particularly well outside of the working environment.
But he was always really lovely. I’ve seen him a lot since,
and it was just incredible to be working with such a legend.
Frakes:
We were lucky to have him.
Corbet:
I’ve been a film junkie my whole life, I’ve grown up watching
and so it was – I don’t know, it was particularly incredible
for me. When it came right down to it, we were all just playing and
working and that was that.
Frakes:
He also loves it. He loves the craft, he’s one of those guys
that reminds you why you’re doing it, because he really still
loves what he does and I think that shows.
Were
you guys aware of the Thunderbird culture?
Frakes:
I wasn’t.
Corbet:
I was, I’m a bit of an insomniac, I don’t sleep very much,
and it comes on at like 3 a.m. on Tech TV now, and it was always on
my periphery, it was that kind of thing.
Frakes:
Did you see it when you were a kid in Europe?
Corbet:
No, I didn’t see it when I was a really little kid, I’ve
probably seen it in the past three years, but I’ve always known
what it was and people always kind of made jokes about all of it,
but I don’t think I’d ever seen an entire episode, maybe
one entire episode, or two.
Fulton:
I thought it was a car.
Frakes:
It’s a nice car. Marionettes – super marionation (?) It
wasn’t on my radar when I was a kid.
I
caught your little homage to it (a puppet hand on the controls)
Fulton:
Yeah, good job.
Frakes:
Everybody wanted to do their marionette impersonation, but we spared
you most of them.
Does
it concern you at all that your target audience doesn’t know
Thunderbirds?
Frakes:
No, not at all. One of the things about making a film like this is
that for an audience who knows the Thunderbirds, all of their precious
icons are in the film, and for an audience who doesn’t know
the Thunderbirds, they get to go on this adventure with this international
rescue organization. It was very much like the Star Trek movies, if
you didn’t know anything about Star Trek and you went to see
First Contact, for instance, you needn’t know anything about
any of these people, and you get introduced to them. So you make a
great family adventure fantasy film that just happens to be the Thunderbirds,
in much the same way as the Star Trek films. I don’t think there
is any need to know about them. Plus, to be perfectly frank with you,
the memory of the original Thunderbirds is better than going back
and sitting through an hour of them.
Is
that why you didn’t worry about exposition?
Frakes:
Just dove right in, yeah, exactly.
Do
you agree Brady that the memory might be better?
Corbet:
Not entirely, we just said this in the last one, which is it’s
something I appreciate and it’s something that, especially considering
the time, it is – as a kid, it totally would have captured my
imagination. I loved Jim Henson, I loved the Muppets, I grew up with
Labyrinth and all that, so to me it’s not massively different
that that. It’s not wacky and crazy, it’s kind of stern
and kind of – but it’s something that I appreciate more
than enjoy, but I’m not really into sci-fi anyway –
Frakes:
Oh, you will be. I was the same way. I said the same things in the
‘80s.
Vanessa,
what was the hardest thing about working with so many guys?
Hudgens:
Well, I wouldn’t really consider saying that I look at them
just as guys, I seriously look at them as my friends. Me and Soren
grew really close –
Fulton:
We’re like, I guess you could say, she’s like a twin sister
that’s three years older than me, but she’s also a little
eccentric. It’s like Dory and male Dory from Finding Nemo.
Hudgens:
It didn’t really seem like there was much of a difference, I
just had fun on it.
Are
you insinuating that she’s not too bright?
Hudgens:
Dory’s amazing.
Fulton:
We like Dory.
Frakes:
Vanessa was one of the guys, in the story and out. She would try anything
that I would ask her to try. I must say, all my talent were really
up for it, and they didn’t have to do some of the things I begged
them to do.
Can
you tell me what your favorite music is?
Corbet:
Busted. I’m a total music geek, I’m a multi-media geek.
I love Wilco (?), and I listen to the new Wilco album a lot, Tender
Sticks, Tom Waits, all sorts of stuff.
Hudgens:
I listen to a lot of things, everything, rap, reggae, I love Bob Marley,
Modest Mouse Foot on the Ya, Ya , Yas (?) and pretty much everything
well rounded.
Fulton:
I listen to the Clash, you heard that right, the Clash from the London
invasion, and in my family’s car right now is Elvis’ number
one hits – I got that for my birthday. But I listen to a lot
of the Clash, they’re great.
Frakes:
??? Berto (???) I like, her new album is great – I listen to
Nora Jones a lot, I listen to Billie Holiday a lot, John Mayo (?).
You know the Busted video’s number one – top of the pops.
It’s the first time they ever went number one (the kids seem
thrilled by this!)
Former
child stars burn out – are you being counseled for that time
in your life when you won’t be cute!!!!!!
Corbet:
Your career, no matter what age you are, is entirely up to you to
do what you want with it. I’m not in any kind of particular
fear of being pigeon-holed into, ‘Oh look, little blonde Arian
superhero.’ It’s obviously something where you go, ‘Oh
God, it happened to them.’ Most of the people who have ended
up where they have, and these dire bad situations, they’re not
where they would probably hope they would be, they got themselves
there and so therefore, if in ten years I screw up, then I’m
entirely responsible for that and I can deal with that. Unless there’s
a sequel of course, this is the only family film that I’ve ever
done and, at least for the next several years, will do. Before this
I’d done Thirteen, and as soon as I got home from that I did
a film called Mysterious Skin with a director that I’d always
dug named Greg Araki. I’ve no desire to be famous, but what
I do have a desire to do is to be working on the kind of projects
that I’ve always (can’t hear – guy interrupts about
peer pressure) – Peer pressure, that has nothing to do with
the business, or with film or anything of that nature, that’s
just – it is a generation thing where everything is getting
younger and Thirteen did explore that, a lot of films have explored
that. But I don’t go to school, I’m home schooled. I have
quality over quantity kind of friends, and I have a couple of very
close people that I spend time with, so I don’t feel any kind
of particular pressure to do anything. I’m sure some people
do.
Fulton:
I just turned 13 and basically I don’t know why I would do drugs.
What’s the point of burning out your mind? People who do that
are usually – they want to escape and I’m hoping to have
a good future, and it’s kind of hard to have a good future if
you don’t know which end’s up, with a bunch of holes in
your wrists and tar in your lungs. That’s my two-cents.
Hudgens:
I spend a lot of time with my family, I’m really close to my
family and we just go out and have fun and we do lots of theme parks,
and when I do get stressed I go to the gym and just work out, which
is also good, because it relieves the stress and I get a good workout
so I stay fit. But I really don’t have that many friends, because
I’m also home schooled, I used to go to real school, but I lived
50 miles away from where I do live now, so my close friends that I
have there, I have to drive a long way to see, so now I only have
one friend that’s really close. I pick out who I hang out with,
if I do get myself into a situation it wouldn’t – no,
I would just do my hardest to reject (?). It’s not like I would
want to do any of those things, but the people I do hang out with
I really trust and they are always there for me.
Corbet:
Mark my words, we’re going to be the next Corey Haim.
Fulton:
Thanks Brady. You know when I turned 13, they called in Evan who was
also 13, ‘Soren, how old are you turning?’ ‘I’m
turning 13,’ In the background Brady starts singing the theme
to Thirteen. Just say no.
What
was it like directing your wife, Genie Francis?
Frakes:
She’s a pro, Genie Francis is. She shoots a lot faster than
most actresses, because she’s done the soaps for so long. It
was treat to finally get to put her in something, I’ll be honest
with you. It has been a long time coming. My wife, Genie Francis plays
the newscaster in Thunderbirds. I’ve done a couple of shows
with her where we’ve acted together, but I’d never had
a chance to direct her. I adore her, I think she’s great. The
greatest compliment has been in England, where nobody knows her from
Luke and Laura, and felt that I’d hired a newscaster from CNN,
so it’s been a very good experience.