Jason
Behr, "The Grudge"
Comic-Con,
Saturday July 24, 2004
Did
you just get back from Japan, too?
Yes.
Jet-lagged?
Yeah, a
little bit. A little bit. I don't sleep on a plane so well, so I was
kind of up.
Can
you talk about the reshoots?
We basically
went back because we knew we were going back to pick up some shots.
Some additional scenes.
Sarah
said something about filming the back story of the characters…?
Yeah. It
was about Sarah and my characters, kind of giving them a little more
life and getting a chance to see them in their relationship and how
are they are as humans. So, I guess, to humanize them a little more.
Was
your character in the original Ju-On?
No. The
Grudge has a lot of the same elements from the first Ju-On, but there's
a lot of other things that were added.
This
is a franchise and The Grudge is, what, the third in the series in
Japan?
Yeah. There
are familiar things that you'll see that are necessary to tell the
story from the first Ju-Ons, but there are different elements added.
I don't think [Takashi] Shimizu [the director] would have done an
exact carbon copy of it. We wanted to do something a little different.
Are
you a fan of the genre?
Yeah. I
think we all grew up on An American Werewolf in London and Friday
the 13th, but I think [unintelligible].
Since
this movie has a phantom-theme, what's your favorite ghost movie?
I'd have
to say The Grudge, now.
You
have to, huh? Contractual obligation?
Let's see,
the best ghost story. I'd say The Shining, probably. That's the best
one. That's probably the best one.
What
were the challenges of working with a director that doesn't speak
English?
In the
beginning, he would come over and he would speak for awhile and then
the translator would say, "Let's just do it again." And
that was sort of like the standard mode of operation for the first
couple of days. We really didn't get a whole lot of direction from
him, it was always just through the translator. By the end of the
shoot, we developed script shorthand and he learned English really,
really quickly. So he was able to communicate with us by himself after
awhile.
Did
you learn much Japanese?
A skosh.
[note: slang derived from the Japanese word sukoshi, meaning a little
bit.] I know just enough to order food and drinks and that's about
it.
I
got the sense that Shimizu favored Sarah. Like she was his little
pet. Did you get a sense of that?
Shimizu
liked everybody. He's just a… It's amazing that this story came
out of that mind. Because I mean, it's a pretty terrifying story.
I guess his head is a pretty scary place to be, but he's a really
friendly guy. He's got a wicked sense of humor, one that doesn't often
need translation. He's just a really playful, fun guy to be around.
Sarah
said she has a sense of humor. Did she screw around with you on set
a lot?
Not so
much. Not so much. I think she stole my shoes once. You have to take
off your shoes when you get in the house; when you enter any house
in Japan. It's disrespectful to the house if you don't. So I remember
coming back one time and my shoes were missing and I knew she did
it, right away.
Did
you ever not take off your shoes going into a house and something
bad happened to you?
No. Pretty
much as soon as you walk towards any house, you know you take your
shoes off.
Did
you get her back, after she stole your shoes?
No, not
really.
She's
here. There's still time.
[laughs]
Have
you been hanging out with Shimizu in Los Angeles?
Yeah. We
did some looping and I brought him to Krispy Kreme Donuts. He'd never
been there before. He loved them. His favorite was The Original.
Sarah
said he's becoming American. Do you see that?
[laughs]
The first time I saw him in Los Angeles, he had his cell-phone glued
to his ear. So he definitely went Hollywood for awhile. Yeah, he has
his Birkenstocks and his little Hawaiian shorts and a cell-phone:
That Shimizu, Hollywoodized.
All
he needs now is a trophy wife and a convertible.
I think
he's working on that.
Have
you looked around here at Comic-Con, or do you want to? Are you a
comic book fan?
I'm gonna
see if I can't tool around a bit, yeah. I named my dog after Frank
Miller's Ronin, so… Yeah. I grew up reading the stuff.
Have
you been to Comic-Con before?
Never.
First time.
Have
you been down there [on the main floor]?
No. I just
got here. You guys are, like, my second room.
[[a
bunch of unintelligible or/and pointless stuff about how big the panel
room is, and Jason watching something about soccer on TV]]
Are
you ready for all the Roswell fans?
I'm sure
there will be a couple out there.
Did
you work with Kadee Strickland at all?
No. I don't
have any scenes with her, but she's great. She's great. We had a really
great group of people out there. To be in Japan away from all your
loved ones, it was really… we got really lucky. Kadee, and Clea
[DuVall], and Bill [Pullman] and everybody just had a grand time when
we went out.
I've
been there once and noticed there aren't any street signs. So when
you went out, did you go by yourselves or did you have a guide?
The streets
have no names. It's not just a song. It's absolutely true. Sarah and
I were there first, so we kind of went off exploring together, navigating
the subways and such. But then, when you have your days off, I would
just get on the train and go. And I think I probably touched every
corner of Toyko. It's a huge city; there are 30 million people in
Tokyo.
Did
you look at some of the great temples?
I went
to Sengakuji, I went to The Imperial Palace, I did get the chance
to go to Kyoto and go to Nijojo which is Ieyasu Tokugawa's old residence
in Kyoto and was the capital of Japan. I went everywhere. I watched
a samurai sword being made by this guy named Yoshihara Yoshindo who
is like, the next in line to be the national treasure in sword-making.
Kill
Bill 3!
Yeah. [laughs]
I actually looked at a lot of samurai swords in different shops and
I asked somebody if they knew Sonny Chiba and I don't think they thought
it was funny. [laughs] So I kept the wisecracks to myself, especially
in that environment with all the swords around.
There's
a lot of pride in the making of the swords.
There are
a lot of things, but that's one of the things that makes Japan so
refreshing and endearing is that no matter if you're making a samurai
sword or a sandal, they do it to the best of their ability and take
great pride in what they do -- but humble. It's a beautiful culture.
To be able to experience that for three months is just a dream come
true.
Did
you buy a sword?
No. But
I do plan on going back and doing a little shopping. You've got to
pick the right sword. Or it picks you, I guess.
Have
you noticed a lot more people are aware of Roswell since it's come
out on DVD?
What's
funny about it, is that it was playing a lot in Japan. Both Roswell,
and Buffy. So it was kind of interesting to listen to my voice being
dubbed, because I knew what I said back then! But I have a much sexier
voice in Japanese.
What
was it like?
It was
weird. I want to meet the guy, I want to see what he looks like. The
voice has a little more power to it [than mine], a little sexier than
I was able to give.
I'm
sure they're prepping more Roswell DVDs -- will you be participating?
I think
they're doing 2… I think they did 2 when I was in Japan. The
last time they came out with the first one, it was like this small
window of opportunity that I… "Can you come in and do this
stuff?" And I was in Minnesota at the time, so it was like, 2
days went by and that was it. And so this last time they did the second
one, I was in Japan. So I'm not on either of the special things.
Would
you want to be involved in the future, if you're around?
Absolutely,
absolutely.
Some
people shy away from these things.
I'm trying
to think… no, no. I would definitely do it… It was literally,
like, 2 days. They weren't even expecting to do a boxed set, I guess.
And they called me at the last minute and said, "Can you come
in?" And I'm like, "I'm in Minnesota, I'm watching a ballgame.
My Twins are winning."
What's
next for you?
I just
wrapped a movie called Shooting Livien. It's about this delusional
musician who sounds a lot like John Lennon. So I had to do a lot Lennon
research, and read a lot of books and watch a lot of DVDs, and music
videos; a lot of things on John and Yoko. And I had to learn to play
guitar -- or at least four songs really, really well. The whole movie
revolves around this rapid decline, drugs and rock & roll. I had
to drop 40 pounds for it to kind of get there. It helped out a lot,
you sort of wear your skin differently. It hangs on your bones a little
bit lighter. It was an amazing experience. We did that movie in about
a month and a half. Real bare-bones. I probably got about 2 hours
of sleep a night. Really, really working hard on it. But it's, um…
I'm really, proud of it. I hope people get a chance to see it. We're
just finishing it up now and we'll probably do the festival circuit.
What's
going on with Happily Even After?
I don't
know. We went to Tribeca for that and, um, it's kind of new to me,
the whole independent world and how things gets sold and how things
get purchased, so I don’t know what the next step is.
Would
you ever do a sequel to The Grudge?
If the
opportunity presents itself I would definitely read the script and
take a look at it. I would work with Shimizu again in a heartbeat.
He was amazing. Even with all the obstacles in the beginning with
the whole language barrier, and being able to overcome those and still
make the movie that we made, I would work with him again in a heartbeat.
[unintelligible]
I grew
up on these kinds of films and I've seen horror films, and this is
the most original horror film I've seen in years.
Are
you a fan of the Japanese horror films in general?
I liked
Ringu very much. But The Grudge is the best of both worlds I think,
because it doesn't lose any of that Japanese sensibility. It definitely
has a different flavor in that way that Ju-On was very unique. But
The Grudge is that with American actors in Japan telling that story.
It's pretty terrifying.
You
know Sarah from an episode you did on Buffy, but was there something
about her you learned while working with her in Japan that you didn't
know before?
I've known
her for awhile, but it's interesting how she was on Buffy and I was
on Roswell and um, to come back and spend three months in the same
place. It was great to have a friend to go exploring with and to go
do things with. I guess she hasn't changed a whole lot. She's still
the same person, pretty much, that I knew way back when. She's a good
person. She knows what she wants in life and how to get it. As I worked
with her I could see that she's really, really happy and I'm ecstatic
for her. Working with her on Buffy a long time ago and then coming
back to work together again, it was great to have a friend in Japan…
to be one of the lone Americans out there and to have, to feel so…
There's a definite sense of being lost in translation and there's
a sense loneliness if you don't have anybody around, so it was really,
really good for both of us, I think.
She
seems like a really … [unintelligible]
I think
we both pushed each other to go out and explore different things.
I mean, we both had our little books of Tokyo and you know, dog-earing
pages and saying, "We did this, we did that. Now let's go see
this and let's go do that." We both did things on our own as
well, but we were there for three weeks before anyone else got there
so got a lot of site seeing in before we started work.
Which
episode of Buffy were you in?
I don't
remember.
Lie
To Me.
Thank you.
Ford.
Ford, Ford.
That's right! [laughs] It was a kid who wanted to trade Buffy in for
immortality because he had a brain tumor. And Joss directed it. Ford
was an old boyfriend from Sunnydale. You guys are good! [laughs] Billy
'Ford' Fordham. That's so funny. They gave me the greatest sweater-vests
to wear. I had this really gawd-awful, like, orange and green sweater-vest.
Who wears sweater-vests? Apparently, evildoers in sheep's clothing.
Was
there anything you learned about yourself, working in Japan?
I always
had sort of a desire to go to Japan and I didn't really know why.
I just really liked the culture. I liked a lot of things that were
Japanese. I think what I found out about myself is, why. And understanding
that love and that culture is just… Japan was just an amazing
experience for me personally because everywhere I traveled -- be it
the giant Sony building in the middle of this bustling city, and around
the corner is this 300 year old temple. It was like a meeting of these
two different worlds, that I found myself kind of grappling onto both
of them. Kind of being nostalgic about things past, and also going
forward in the future. It was just a really nice centering.
Special
Thanks to Staci Layne Wilson