Author: Robert Sanchez/Scott Huver

Gore Verbinski has become a very sought after director in Hollywood. With hits such hits such as The Ring and Pirates of the Carribbean, his movies are a box office success. His latest film is a departure from his genre and action adventure hits and instead dives into mind of Dave Spritz played by Nicholas Cage in the dark drama The Weather Man.

Question:  Are you on shore leave right now?

Verbinski: Yeah. They let me off.

Question: When was this movie shot?

Verbinski: It was shot between February and March of last year. Yeah. 'O4.

Question: So you were between movies?

Verbinski: Yeah.

Question: How did you come to this?

Verbinski: How did I come to it? I really wanted to do a drama and it was a great script.

Question: Is this about the American dream?

Verbinski: Well, I guess that this is the new American way. This really isn't the classic American dream necessarily I think. I don't think that that American dream exists anymore, the perfect family like 'The Brady Bunch.' It's the erosion of the American family that we're dealing with her.

Question: What was the first time that you realized that life is unpredictable?

Verbinski: When did I first realize that? I don't know, probably in kindergarten. I think that when I read the script it was obvious that this was the struggle of this man, against the elements - The Weather Man. It's his battle against mediocrity and his attempt to hold his family together, but it's too late.

Question: Was it important to talk about the weather in this film?

Verbinski: Well, the weather is a character in the film and so is fast food, indeed, a character in the movie. And I think that these characters are plotting against  Dave Spritz as he makes his journey. And I think that he naively thinks that if one thing had changed his life would be different, if he would have remember that one thing. He is a shallow character who you want to smack and who you want to give a hug to at the same time. He is a sound-bite. He has to sum up something very complicated which is the weather and package it and distill it down and present it and that process I think has contributed to the fact that he is trying to distill down his life and predict it and control it and he thinks that teaching his kid archery is going to solve the problem, but you have to be there everyday for your kid. You can't just show up one day and try to fix it and he's trying to double down and roll the dice one more time and put it all together and he's not seeing the bigger picture and complexities. He's not a meteorologist. He doesn't understand. He's not his father. He doesn't understand how complicated those issues are.
Question: Can you talk about the casting of Nick Cage? How did you know that nick could both evoke an audience to want to smack him and hug him at the same time?

Verbinski: Well, we're both forty years old and he read the script at the same time that I did. So when I finished it I was thinking of him and when I met him, and we've met before, but this is the first time that we said that this is the one, and he said, 'I am this guy. I don't have to act. This is time.' He's been through marriages. He goes out and people harass him publicly. He's got father issues and he's struggling like all of us against mediocrity in our lives. So there was really no one else to play the part.
Question: and what about Michael Caine?

Verbinski: Well, once you have Nick you have to contrast that. This is script required and Atticus Finch or Gregory Peck kind of unbelievable character, something impossible to live up to and to me that's Michael Caine. It's rare that you get star struck when you meet a lot of actors, but Michael Caine is that way for me. You want to touch him to make sure that he's really there and a lot of older actors would look at a director like myself and say, 'You know, I was doing this when you were in diapers.' And he really treated me like I was David Lean. He was really respectful. 'Yes, sir. How would you like it different. I'll try it again. That sounds good.' He's the kindest man and he has so much integrity and that character was written somewhat cold. Michael Caine can be cold, but he can never not be warm. And that was really important. He's not in that many scenes and yet you feel his presence and you feel that it's unattainable to live up to. That's the blindness I think of the movie, that Dave Spritz, we all - I hope that people will see this in the movie - but we all want to be more. We want to be better lovers, better parents, better at our jobs and yet at some point we have to face the music and stop trying to be something and realize who we are. There's just an impossible gap between Robert Spritz and Dave Spritz. Robert is filet mignon and Dave is an Egg McMuffin. And there's no way. He's never going to get there. So what he can do hopefully is realize that he's not going to get there and realize that his father isn't expecting him to get there and come to terms with who he is.

Question: How did they work together? Did they work well together?

Verbinski: Yeah. We wanted a little bit of distance between them, but what's nice about making this kind of movie is that you don't have pirate ships or cannons or car chases. So you can actually spend time sitting right where we're sitting now and read the pages and talk about the scene and it makes a difference. It really makes a difference if you can get the process out of the way and talk about acting and make it simple.

Question: A lot of people are wondering why you're making this film, this type of film. What do you think about those rumblings?

Verbinski: Well, I should apologize now. I'm not interested in myself as a brand. I'm not trying to build a body of work and I'm not trying to perfect a genre. I'm just trying to grow and learn and exercise different muscles and challenge myself. I like to do movies that I'm afraid that I can't do because there's something dangerous about that. In this business it's going to go away tomorrow or someday. People will eventually go, 'Whatever happened to that guy?' So you might as well go out doing something that you go, 'Yeah, that's okay. I left doing a movie that I really liked.'

Question: Is there a Gore Verbinski style in this film?

Verbinski: I try not to impose a style on the movie. I think that's a really dangerous thing to do. I try to look at the movie and go, 'What does this want to be?' Whether it's a script or a pitch or an idea. 'What does it want to be?' And you have to use - style can be the absence of style.

Question: Well, maybe not style then, but perhaps your signature. Did you put your signature on this film?

Verbinski: I don't know. I didn't approach it like that.

Question: Was there a theme that you were looking for in the film?

Verbinski: Well, I think that it's always good dramatically to have a character who is struggling against something or who is blind, who believes something or can't see - there's an obstacle internally. I think that those are just more powerful characters. So I guess using the process of working on the script we talked about all of those things, and so somehow in that process we work on that. But that's more craft. It's not like there's an agenda. It's just craft. So you would probably better answering that question.

Question: You said that you were going to be forty years old…

Verbinski: No. I am forty. My birthday is in March.

Question: Can you talk a bit about 'pirates?' how hard was it to get two more sequel scripts that were just as good as the first one?

Verbinski: We don't have those scripts yet [LAUGHS]. We're just making the movie. No. We actually have a pretty good second script and the third script is still on the operating table. And we're in triage constantly, everyday. I don't recommend making two movies at once. I think that we're going to get there, but it's just madness. You're like building ships and the ships aren't ready and you have four hundred extras. There's a lot of fun and I think that the second movie is strong and clever and has a lot going on. The third movie we're still working on.

Question: So you're not doing like 'lord of the rings' and shooting them both at the same time?

Verbinski: No. We are. We are. We're shooting scenes in the third movie without even knowing what the hell we're doing. We are.

Question: Will Keith Richards be in it?

Verbinski: We hope so. We're trying to work out his dates. We all want it to work, but it's his tour dates and his lawyers.

Question: How much of the magic was Johnny's [Depp] performance holding it all together?

Verbinski: Yeah, but it's tricky. You can't just phone that in. We actually have a story that's challenging and compelling and dangerous and he's still the character that gets to weave his way through  that story and affect  everyone else with his own agenda. But you don't want to make the mistake of going, 'Well, they loved Johnny Depp. Put him in every scene.' You'd then kind of wear that out. You need a very unique take.

Question: So he's still a supporting actor in these movies?

Verbinski: Supporting? No. I think that he's carrying the movie.

Question: Technically, have you wrapped two and doing three now?

Verbinski: No. I'm a quarter of the way through the third one and three quarters of the way through the second one. It's madness.

Question: Did you talk to Peter Jackson at all about doing this?

Verbinski: I did talk to Peter Jackson about it. He said, 'Re-shoots.'

Question: When is it supposed to open?

Verbinski: July 7th.
Question: Will you do re-shoots then?

Verbinski: We don't have time for re-shoots. We don't have the time.

Question: Is it a lot of pressure doing this and did you know what you had on the first film?

Verbinski: Well, I mean, I knew we had a fun movie that was going to make it's money back, but the exponential factor was Johnny's performance and that character which they were so nervous about.

Question: So you like to work with actors i take it?

Verbinski: Yeah. I do like that. That's what I'm supposed to be doing, but the other stuff gets in the way sometimes. It does. It really does and you're like a traffic cop.

Question: You mentioned that older actors like Michael Caine, some of them hold that idea that they've been doing this since you were in diapers. Have you had that experience before with an older actor?

Verbinski: Oh yeah. Gene Hackman chewed my head off. He's a crotchety old guy. He's great.

Question: Before you make a movie with an actor do you try and make sure that they don't have big egos and so forth?

Verbinski: Well, it depends. Some of them are worth it. Everyone has a different process and sometimes you need that solo violinist and it comes with a headache and you take headache because you need the solo. I think that there are people - I will work with actors most of the time. It's completely project dependent. I don't want to make a bad movie just because I want to work with nice people, but I don't want to work with assholes and not get something great out of them either.

Question: How hard was it to find the kids for this film because they came off so real?

Verbinski:Yeah, Nicholas Hoult was in 'About a Boy' and he grew like three feet. He's fantastic. And Gemmenne de la Pena we discovered and she's just really, really strong and fantastic. They're great because a lot of times with children you have to direct them externally. You have to talk to them about how to make their face because they're not attuned with their instrument and they don't know how to impact emotionally and not put it on the outside where with those two I could direct them the same way that I direct any other actors.

Question: We were talking about the camel toe thing. The Spanish don't have a word for that and neither do the French…

Verbinski: You will now. Camel toe. The word exists. It's the visual.

Question: Do you have a favorite weather person?

Verbinski: No. But we had a guy in Chicago named Tom Skillan who was really helpful to us on the movie and I really liked him. He was like our technical advisor, and we'd call him up.

Question: Did he ever get abused by his audience, did he say?

Verbinski: I hope that he does now.

Question: Can you talk about the experience of working with the Mexican actors?

Verbinski: Yeah. They were the best. They were fantastic. I wish that we could steal them and bring them up here. They were fantastic. Amazing actors. They work in so much television that they're working all the time. I think that's why they're really strong, really strong actors. I mean, I was seriously, really blown away.

Question: What should audiences look forward to in 'pirates' two and three, what will be different?

Verbinski: What? You want me to be like a marketing guy? Jack is back. [LAUGHS] It'll be different enough that there will be a lot of stuff that will be fresh and that you don't expect and it will be familiar enough that all of your favorites are back, but the stories are different.

Question: What would be the moral of 'The Weather Man?'

Verbinski: What would be the moral? The moral is that I think there are great people and then there are the rest of us and I think that the rest of us are divided into two groups. There is the group that recognizes, that comes to terms with the fact that we'll never be Albert Einstein and then there's the other group that keeps trying to be something that they're not. I personally think that there is more misery in the people who never comes to terms with it. The people who come in at some point and say, 'Okay. This is who I am. I'm not going to be all those other things.' They then go on living and actually start living in a way. I think that for Dave and a lot of us you find peace in that and be the blade of grass and stop trying to fight against something that's not natural.

Question: I feel sorry for Nicholas who says that he really felt that he was this person.

Verbinski: What, when he says that he is fast food? No. Look, I think that he just has a lot of personal experiences to draw upon, to bring to this performance. I don't think that Dave Spritz is shallow. I think that Dave Spritiz is trying to live up to something that he'll never be. That's not so much the thing that Nick and I were talking about. We weren't talking about that. He has experiences though. He gets stalked by people in cars who go, 'Hey. My girlfriend thinks that you're cute. I think that you're an asshole.' It's like, 'Okay. I'm glad that she thinks I'm cute and I'm glad that you think that I'm an asshole.' So he has to deal with that.

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